8ms TFT

[Blackstar]

This might be a bit old hat but Overclockers is selling an 8ms 17" DVI TFT

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/lcd17.html

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/proseries/vp171s/

/me wants

[SlyDave]

The brightness is to low for a decent TFT, the contrast is to low also, it doesn't state the vertical hz vs the hoz hz, so the 8ms could be distored somewhat, also it doesn't have a very good max res.

Other than that, nice monitor, but plenty better out there.

[tuBBymAN]

i'm quietly impressed with novatech's current 17" TFT 16ms response ain't bad

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?TFT-NOV17B

[BirdofPrey]

Wheres Pies when you need to explain why such a fast tft will be crap!

[tuBBymAN]

i was under the obviously misguided impression that the faster the better was the rule that applied in these cases

[eaterofpies]

it could be good but a load of the really fast ones have panels can only display 260,000 or so colours (or something like that) and achieve all the other colours by quickly swapping 2 of those colours so according to a site that had an article about this if its one of the 260000 colours you get your 8 ms but otherwise you dont.

I just got my 16 ms screen and i was dubious as ive been a crt fan for a long time and i can honestly say i dont notice anything funky in games such as Q3, UT2004, DOW etc. the only downside with good tfts is you really have to play at a multiple of the screens actual res so 1600x1200 or 800x600 for me otherwise it will look a bit odd.

it might be worth noting that the panels arent usually from the better manufacturers in the fast / cheap tfts so you might ger more pixels that get stuck etc

[SGT_Snacks]

Right this should be the best place to post this question then.

I want a cheap TFT screen, which would be the best? Considering I'm going to be gaming etc, and at what price?

Cheers :)

[eaterofpies]

pick 2 of the following 3 things
cheap
reliable
fast

as i dont think youll get all of them

[SGT_Snacks]

Hmm, Cheap and Reliable would be it I suppose. In something like a ?150 - ?250 range.

[tuBBymAN]

from what i understand from previous incarnations of this very thread the samsungs are the best or if not something with a samsung panel in it much like the dell try ebuyer they have a huge range of TFT's

[SGT_Snacks]

Hmm I did assume it was a big subject, nevertheless times have changed, and that could affect the results. Either way, cheers man, I'll look out for a good deal :)

[tuBBymAN]

no probs oh and don't forget novatech.co.uk their 17" one seemed pretty good but the better range and prices will be at ebuyer however overclockers is oftern worth a look sometimes they do TFT's in "this week only" section

[SGT_Snacks]

don't forget novatech.co.uk

Bad experiences with them. Although then again I've never brought anything from Ebuyer, only Micro Direct (www.microdirect.co.uk), and at that, was only a mouse and GFX card. Good service nevertheless.

I'm poping up to Manchester soon, so I can check out Europes Largest Computer Fair "Similar to the one in Southampton at the last Sunday of the month i.e. This Sunday" so I'll check their prices as well, it's on every Saturday "For more details" (http://www.google.com) . You never know what good deals you can get, and better yet. You can haggle =) I'm going sometime in Febuary once I got rid of this PC, so I'll reply with a reccomendation.. then again it's VERY far away from here.

[SlyDave]

putty_thing uses a 20" Dell, I use a 20" Dell, addz uses 2x 15" Dells.

Dell's TFT's are rock solid.

[tuBBymAN]

yeah coz they have samsung panels in them, ebuyer are great i have spent soo much money with them and no many people who have too

[putty_thing]

putty_thing uses a 20" Dell, I use a 20" Dell, addz uses 2x 15" Dells.

Dell's TFT's are rock solid.

Pies has the same one as you now dave aswell (they're corrupting our minds!)

I want a cheap TFT screen

And like pies said, cheap and tft shouldn't go together.

[BirdofPrey]

I also have a dell tft, can free and tft go in the same sentance?

[tuBBymAN]

no but jammy and git can!

[SlyDave]

lol, The only problem with Dell is they are not cheap, but that is for the reason mensioned above, Dell TFT's are a good build and very reliable which doesn't come cheap.

In the world of TFT's you do actually pay for what you get (just a shame ALL the prices are infalted, cheap or expensive)

[tuBBymAN]

well at the mo Dell are doing thier 17" one for under ?200 :D

[RiPPeR]

Im in the same boat - very tempted on this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_This_Week_Only_25.html

Read alot of good things in the forums.
Seems to have the same brightness as the dells (jims/steves) and a 500:1 contrast ratio.

Thoughts? Ive got till thursday to make my mind up :)

[SGT_Snacks]

That's one nice-looking monitor, still kinda pricey, but a nice monitor

[tuBBymAN]

daish i know its not as big but the 17" at dell is down to ?197 its a bargin :D

[SGT_Snacks]

Well considering Dell seem to have a good reputation with people, and the monitors are said to be good, ?197 is an amazing price. Probably not liable to be that price for long though. I would get a CRT, but I'm fed up of lugging it to LANs, and is an uncontrollable heating solution for the Winter, which makes it a bugger for the summer. Plus I also need the space TFT Screens offer. So all-in-all Dell seem to be, at the moment, the good choice =) Thanks for the advice guys, and happy Winter-een-mas

[Blackstar]

Daish - If http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acata...ek_Only_25.html is the monitro you want, check out http://www.microdirect.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?productID=8198, its on offer atm for ?305.49! ?23 cheaper!

[RiPPeR]

Heh i didnt think to look else where. Presumed ocuk would be cheapest as its on offer. not really interested in the dell - i dunno i thought this one was ok. Dell do a 19" but i dont know why they are cheaper than the rivals. And when you compare spec to spec the viewsonic seems better (mainly due to DVI and 16ms vs 12ms) for only ?50

Also do you know how long their special offers last? Is it changed daily or weekly?

[tuBBymAN]

dunno mate but isn't it in the this "week" only bit :P

[RiPPeR]

I meant micro direct where its ?30 cheaper.

[RiPPeR]

Hmm im getting very tempted by this - my debit card is almost in my hands. Ive read lots and theres alot of good words out there. So hopefully it'll be ok.

Chris

[SlyDave]

Dell is cheaper than the rival becuase of corperate buying power, simple facts and figures, they can build and buy in bulk and still provide support and warranty.

Dell rule, for anything but Games Machines.

[RiPPeR]

Well i went for it from micro direct as it was a great price and i didnt know when the offer expired. Ive read nothing but excellant reviews on this tft but ill give u guys my own review once i recieve it and let you know what i think. Still cant believe i parted with ?310 .....

RiP

[Blackstar]

n1 matey, i'm sure it won't let you down!!

[tuBBymAN]

tis a very good price for a 19" TFT i'm tempted especially as we just had payday lol damn my car needing an MOT lol :P

[Blackstar]

my car is having a new valve or something fitted that is costing me a shed load!!! else i'd be tempted too, I think it'll be my first purchase once i start working full time! Just gotta get my degree now!

[Jynx]

my car is having a new valve or something fitted that is costing me a shed load!!!

Well its their own fault if they dont know things about their car, I just charge what I like.

Ouch, always worth finding an online commuinty to ask about stuff like that as so many of these things are easy to do yourself.

[tuBBymAN]

hmmm you fancy having a bash at changing my clutch then jim :D

[Jynx]

/me picks up welding mallet

[tuBBymAN]

lol
/me runs away in my nice new hire car :D

[Blackstar]

Ouch, always worth finding an online commuinty to ask about stuff like that as so many of these things are easy to do yourself.Would have had a go myself but the problem kicked up on my way back home (for sisters bday) and I was only planning to stay the one night before heading back due to meetings etc at uni, needed it done as quickly as possible! Stupid cars...make me mad..drain my bank account!

[putty_thing]

Clutch is fairly easy with the right tools, engine hoist, possibly airgun - just split the gearbox off and its right there..

And tubby, if you stopped drag racing, your clutch would last longer!

[tuBBymAN]

rofl! :D drag racing my rover lmao :D

[putty_thing]

So has anyone got their respective screens yet?

[RiPPeR]

Still waiting i hate it when you get screwed by the 3 working days and the 3rd day is a saturday. Means you have to wait another 2 days! sucks.

[tuBBymAN]

well any news daish today is the magical 3rd working day

[RiPPeR]

Had to get it sent home cos im new to microdirect (grrr) but hopefully when dad gets home from work there will be a little form and he can whizz off to the collection point and then drive it to pompey ;)

*Hopes*

[SlyDave]

He'll drive into the borders of pompey, 'they' will stop him, nick the monitor, his wheels, his cloths and the furry dice.

Ye Be Warned!

[tuBBymAN]

i'm not supprised they won't deliver it to daish's house thats like saying can you deliver it to downtown Baghdad

[SlyDave]

Na, many companys wont ship to any other address other than the billing address the first time around, becuase by validating your code, they validate your address, so in furture if its sent to another address that turns out to be hooky, they can get you at your main addr.

And of course if your first addr is hooky, the card check should show that and they simply wont send it.

Standard practice these days

[RiPPeR]

yes and vrey annoying as ive been in all day here in pompey. Dads actually heading over now so i should have it by 9 \o/ Then its round putty_things for a java revision sesh...oh the fun!

[Blackstar]

java...revision...pfffft


public class main {

public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println("Hello World!");
}

}

All ya ever need :P

[tuBBymAN]

lol o..k i think i'll stick with my php thanks

[SGT_Snacks]

Have any of you checked www.aria.co.uk, you sometimes get amazing deals on TFT screens. Well I've never shopped with them so I don't know their reputation, but good prices =)